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the Double Pitch Problem

From Users of the Online Dice Control Library

Hi Everyone,

This is Java from California. I've been practicing diligently, and I think I'm seeing some improvement in my throws. I do have a question, though.

I'm using the perfect grip (three fingers in front, thumb in back), shooting from stick right, hardway set. My practice table is an old craps felt stapled to plywood.

Every now and then I have what looks like the most perfect throw: the dice stay together as if they are glued, land together and roll together. The problem is that they invariably end up in the 5-2 or 3-4 formation! Should I take this to mean I have a double pitch problem? If that's the case, does anyone have advice on how to correct for double pitch?

Any help much appreciated!

Java

Hi Java,

Welcome and glad to see you coming right out and asking questions. We are all here to help you. First let me say that a double pitch 7 out is better than other 7 outs in that at least you know your dice are traveling on axis. B's suggestion about a softer landing is very important as a hard landing can cause this double pitch.

I need you to look at other things as well. Remember that if the dice are staying together and landing together then you wouldn't double pitch as often, that is you would have a longer roll because the 7 will always eventually show. So something is wrong.

1. in your three front finger grip, pick up the dice and then instead of throwing look at your fingers. Can you draw a straight line across them? IF one finger is slightly lower or higher than the other they will travel and rotate slightly different and cause them to land slightly different double pitch.

2. Is the pressure you have on the dice with your fingers and thumb the same? If not you will have more skin contact on the dice, again causing a slightly different rotation in flight, causing a double pitch

3. Are both dice traveling at the same height during flight? If not one will land before the other and cause a double pitch. Use the idea of taping two dice together and throwing. See if there is a wobble in flight. IF there is, then it is probably not straight fingers or uneven pressure.

Try to answer these questions and take the corrective measures and let us know.

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